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February 22nd, 2001, 06:16 PM
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So I am putting my plan for my lude. I looking at the JRSC for the SH and I am wondering about water injection to cool the charge. I have seen some of you post that putting methonal in the mix helps. Is this true and it there any validaty to this? I know that NOS would cool the charge, but I am wondering if a 25 shot with the blower would kill the engine. The h22a is all aluminum and I dont want to kill the thing! Any truth to methonal mix with water? JRcivic, you sell the water injeciton, heard of this? What is your price? Maybe I should email Shawn @ JR.
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February 22nd, 2001, 06:36 PM
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I recently discussed this with some other people and I think we all agreed that methonal is nothing but bad news. I dont have any proof but I would imagine that it will errode o-rings, hoses, and fittings over time. Again, I have no proof but I work in a natural gas plant and they use that stuff around here, its pretty potent.
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February 22nd, 2001, 07:49 PM
#3
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Most fuel systems specify gas or alcohol ability as methanol will erode even aluminum if left standing for long periods of time.
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February 22nd, 2001, 11:21 PM
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Back when I was in pit crewing, we ran alcohol in both the midget and the dwarf cars. After each race we would have to flush the fuel sytems and thats no fun at 3 in the morning. It was nothing but a nightmare. Yes it will destroy any rubber hoses etc. and corrodes aluminum rather quickly.
Does not have to set very long, evaporates fairly quickly, but it will attract moister out of the air leaving behind a mucus like substance. Pour some in a jar and leave the top off, and you watch that stuff start clouding up from the humidity in the air alone.
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February 23rd, 2001, 12:13 AM
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hopen_luder, email me.
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February 23rd, 2001, 11:08 AM
#6
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The lines are nylon, the pump internals are stainless, the jets are nickle plated brass.
Unless you stall while on full boost, there will be no methanol in the engine.
As for methanol being hygroscopic (absorbing moisture), dont forget that you are mixing it with 50 to 90% water before you can inject it.
If you guys are still frightened off - then remember to sleep with your lights on, the Sandman might just get you ! (sorry guys couldnt resist ;p )
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February 23rd, 2001, 08:31 PM
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So is menthol better at cooling or should an alcohol work better? Does any aditive added to water help cooling the air charge? Your help is greatly appreciated!
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February 23rd, 2001, 08:41 PM
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Methanol removes a LOT of heat energy from the air as it evapourates, a lot more than water, and as a result it is a far more effective 'cooling agent'. I have only heard of people using Methanol, not any other alcohol. For some reason, concentrations of Methyl alcohol (methanol) above 50% are said to be less effective as a coolant - any one know why ?
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February 25th, 2001, 11:55 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Methanol removes a LOT of heat energy from the air as it evapourates, a lot more than water, and as a result it is a far more effective 'cooling agent'. I have only heard of people using Methanol, not any other alcohol. For some reason, concentrations of Methyl alcohol (methanol) above 50% are said to be less effective as a coolant - any one know why ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So what is ur last word about water injection? Good or no good?
thanks
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February 27th, 2001, 04:04 PM
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I suspect that Methyl Alchohol is the more popular choice for this because using Ethyl Alchohol would just be a waste of a good drink. Besides injesting Methanol will make you go blind. (Sorry Joe, couldn't resist) 
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